745_Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng
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[00:01:20] JJ: com and start your ad free experience today. So I spent four and a half months, uh, not in the ICU. Personally, my son was in the ICU. I was Taking care of him. So I was very interested when I met Dr. Cujo Kiang. I hope I said that right. You’ll hear me call him Dr. Kk for this reason, , I met him and did his podcast at Eudemonia because he is an ICU and palliative care physician.

[00:01:52] JJ: So someone who’s really seen it all. And what’s interesting here is that he is on a mission. To keep people out of the ICU because half of the people he sees in the ICU, he says it’s preventable. Like if they’ve been doing the right things with lifestyle, they never would have been there. He’s the department head of critical care at the Ottawa Hospital, the host of the, the Solving Healthcare podcast, and the author of Unapologetic Leadership, A Guide to Leading with Courage, Values, and Authenticity.

[00:02:22] JJ: He also has a new book coming out, and we will put it in the show notes. at jjvirgin. com forward slash d r k k dr k k. I’m not going to have you spell it either. And uh, he’s also changed his podcast name. It’s actually now prevention over prescription. You’ll hear about it. in the interview. What’s interesting with him beyond all of this and all of the things he’s now working on to get people out of the ICU, he’s launched a nutrition company because he really sees food as medicine.

[00:02:53] JJ: He’s a thought leader in healthcare innovation and AI and wellness. And again, he’s founded Guyada Nutrition where he has that he can ship all over the world. That’s fabulous. Especially for my listeners here in Canada and the UK who are always asking me how to get them. You’ll be able to get them again.

[00:03:12] JJ: I’ll put that link on the show notes and what we’re going to be digging in today is What you can do to not become that person who’s going into the ICU because you had something that could have been prevented. I know prevention can be hard to sell, but I don’t think with this audience, because we are all about how to live our best, most powerful life for as long as possible.

[00:03:35] JJ: So a lot of that comes down to what we do. what we eat and how we work out. We go deep into exercise, which is always one of my favorite topics and some of the cool things that you can instantly put into action. So stay with me. I will be right back with Dr. KK.

[00:04:07] JJ: Dr. KK. I know you want me to say your name like three times fast.

[00:04:15] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Maybe not, but, uh, great to see you, JJ. It’s been, it’s been, it’s been a very

[00:04:21] JJ: fun hanging with you at eudaimonia and, uh, doing the podcast with you, your podcast, which is now what’s the name of your podcast now? You renamed it?

[00:04:29] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Yeah. Prevention over prescription.

[00:04:32] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: JJ.

[00:04:33] JJ: All right. So good. And because you. Are an ICU physician who’s trying to get people to never see you. Yeah. What a great job proposition for you.

[00:04:44] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Yeah. I mean, a lot of people say like you’re going to earn yourself out of a job, but honestly, when you see so many people, JJ coming into hospital with preventable disease and you see the amount of suffering associated with landing in ICU, you really want to provide people with the tools to avoid seeing someone like myself.

[00:05:06] JJ: How much of what you see, because I would imagine you see the broken leg, right, or, you know, but how much of what you see is preventable?

[00:05:17] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Yeah, good question, JJ. Like, the examples of the ones that aren’t preventable, we see a lot of car accidents, aneurysmal bleeds, some, some cancers that are just due to bad luck, but I’d say we’re talking close to 50%.

[00:05:32] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: When it comes to metabolic disease, it’s certainly in the realm of. 33 to 50 percent but from preventable disease, like from lifestyle choices, including smoking. It’s significant and I can’t reinforce JJ how devastating it is to land in ICU and when the patients land one day when we see our patients, it is usually a protracted, a long mission.

[00:05:59] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: You go, you have pain, you have suffering, you PTSD, anxiety if you survive. You are a shell of what you once were because a lot of our patients aren’t fit like yourself. They’re not coming in with a great baseline. And so going through all this, functionally, they’re poor and their families are involved in terms of, of trying to be there for their families and, and so that they’re taking time off work.

[00:06:28] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: And, and so it is a really a devastating, uh, event that could happen for a family. And so, when you add it all up, plus, my, my, my research area was in cost savings in healthcare. If you were landing in an intensive care unit, whether it’s Canadian or, or, or in the U. S., that’s, on average, at least 3, 000 a day, minimum.

[00:06:51] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: First day being, like, close to 8, 000 to 10, 000, depending on what you’re admitted for. And so when you add it all up, it is so important to try and avoid landing in a hospital, landing in ICU. So we are ultra passionate about giving people the tools to avoid getting sick.

[00:07:12] JJ: Yeah, what you don’t know about me is I actually spent four and a half months in the ICU with my son.

[00:07:18] JJ: So I know of what you speak and, um, it was pretty, Amazing to see. And here’s what was the craziest part of it. Now, you said something I’d never thought about before. Fortunately, when my son got hit by a car and ended up in the ICU at 16, he was in really good shape. When he landed there because you know when you’re in a coma and then recovering and on bed rest because he literally couldn’t walk because of some of the injuries you lose a lot of muscle.

[00:07:54] JJ: I was cranking him with aminos and fish oil and all sorts of stuff. But the other part was I came in healthy too because that level of stress for the caretakers. is insane. In fact, I tested our adrenal health after the fact, and his looked pretty good and mine was like, trashed. I’m like, wow. Um, so, you don’t think about the fact that, you know, you want to be, you never know when these things are going to happen, and if you do have to go to the ICU, you actually want to go in as best shape as possible, but if you were in as best shape as possible, it sounds like half the ICU cases probably wouldn’t even be happening.

[00:08:30] JJ: Which is also, like, something we’d really want. There’s always going to be a need for it, like, you know, saved my son, but what we don’t want is it to be an unnecessary situation with diabetes or stroke or heart attack that could have been prevented. So, when we walk down that path, and I know prevention is like the least sexy thing out there.

[00:08:52] JJ: It’s just the hardest thing to sell. Um, but we’re going to sell it on this show because I know the people listening really care about quality of life and longevity. So what are some of the key things people could do to never have to see you in the ICU?

[00:09:08] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: So first of all, JJ, just really sorry that you and your son had to go through that and your family had to go through all that.

[00:09:15] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: And you, I don’t know if you remember this, but on the show, you, you actually, I just wanted to open my eyes because of the peptide treatment that you, you mentioned in terms of, uh, uh, treatment offers for, for your son. So you’ve, you’ve really opened my eyes and, and now it’s a, uh, an aspect where I want to explore in terms of being able to provide better care for our ICU patients.

[00:09:36] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: So I just wanted to, first of all, highlight that. In terms of, of important elements. So I, I can’t tell you how. I’m going to talk a little bit about how vital it is to be strong. Like we know already, like everyone on your show can, I’m sure has been an advocate of strength training and being strong going in.

[00:09:58] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: And I want to give you a quick story about a patient that I saw. He’s a guy in his seventies, giving me permission to tell this story. And he had a, unfortunately had a cardiac arrest. He passed away for a period of time, but luckily his wife was a nurse. So gave him CPR right away. In my line of work, if you’re in your 70s and you have a cardiac arrest, you die for a period of time, you do not come out.

[00:10:24] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: You don’t leave hospital, you, you, you don’t, we rarely see you survive. And because of this man’s disposition, so he was a guy that went to the gym five days a week. And had that resilience, like, I call it body armor. He was physically, you could tell he went to the gym. He. Also, it was resilient mentally because you have that dedication, right, JJ?

[00:10:48] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Like, you’re going to the gym five days a week, no matter how you feel. And he’s a guy that was going at 5 30 in the morning. And long story short, he survived three months in the ICU. He got home. He got to with his grandkids. He’s not in a nursing home. And that was the power we saw of being strong, focusing on strength.

[00:11:11] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: It was such. I saw a, a motivator for not only. The staff, but the patients around because he was walking on a ventilator. I want to, and I want to repeat that folks. On a ventilator. He was walking. Okay. Like that was the, the, the, the power of. Of, of, of being strong. And I, I see this routinely. And it’s, it’s funny.

[00:11:36] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: me, people find this a bit. This is not for me to say, sometimes J. J., but in ICU, it’s actually quite hard to die. It’s, it’s, it’s, the machines work very well. That keep your lungs going, that keep your heart going, your kidneys. And what it ultimately comes down to is quality of life. And, and being strong will allow you to get back to that quality of life.

[00:12:03] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: And this is why I, I mean, we all go to the gym for different reasons, but it’s just an additional motivator in our house, JJ, to stay strong. Because when we have to go through that, that, that illness, when we have to go through that unfortunate scenario, we want to be ready. And one more story, and we could talk about other means afterwards, but, um, Cindy Hooper, who unfortunately recently passed from her pancreatic cancer, but she was diagnosed in 2013.

[00:12:35] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: and super active triathlete goes to the gym a regular basis. She ran or participating in an Ironman triathlon while on chemotherapy. As far as we know, is the only other only a person to ever do this. And that was the foundation of staying strong to be able to do that and survive so many years over 10 years with pancreatic cancer because of that foundation, mental and physical.

[00:13:04] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: So lots of reasons, uh, tools, but I just wanted to really highlight JJ, the importance of staying strong.

[00:13:12] JJ: Well, and funny note, like we first saw each other at the gym, so, so we both, we both do what we say, but you know, you mentioned something important about being strong is the benefits go beyond just you’re stronger physically.

[00:13:30] JJ: It’s like when you do hard things, you can do hard things. You know, you talked about the guy with the ventilator. We started having Grant do stuff, and the physical therapist at the hospital, like, oh, he can’t do that. And so, we literally got to take him on a day pass. We took him out to the hotel, to the uh, condo I was renting, swimming pool, which was an Olympic sized pool, and videotaped him doing it, because they wouldn’t let him get in the pool.

[00:13:54] JJ: I’m like, watch this, you know, perfectly synchronized. So we would just kept pushing him on things more than they would let us do. Because I was like, you know, you’re never better than when you’re challenged. And we’ve got to be able to face hard stuff and I just love that this woman went and did this and just where people would use things as excuses I always say that quite often that why you think you shouldn’t do it is is the actual why you should be doing it the why not becomes the why you know and granted she’s probably killing off a ton of cancer cells when she was out there doing it

[00:14:30] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: yeah she honestly I this was one of those moments where you When I’m at the gym, or I don’t feel like going to the gym, I would often think of Cindy Hooper.

[00:14:40] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: I would think of her, and if Cindy was willing to do it while on chemotherapy and radiation, I could do this. I could

[00:14:47] JJ: do this. Yeah, quit your whining.

[00:14:50] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: No kidding.

[00:14:52] JJ: Okay, I have to ask you before we get on to more of the like, actual health stuff, because I’m just curious about this, because I know what happened with my son.

[00:15:00] JJ: Since you’ve been around people who have died and come back, And this is a total segue, like this is totally got nothing to do with what we’re talking about, but any near death experience stuff that you’ve heard or seen? You know, I

[00:15:14] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: so I also work in palliative care and I so I’m around death and dying a lot and I’ve never heard from a patient of seeing the light or any kind of moment like that but There are times, JJ, you, it’s hard to describe that sometimes when you’re in a room when a patient’s actively dying or they’ve passed, sometimes there’s like a general feeling.

[00:15:44] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: It’s hard to describe. Like it’s, some people will say like, it feels like a spirit is in the room or left the room or something. And I haven’t experienced this with every patient or every circumstance, but sometimes there’s just like a, It feels like there may be a presence and I, it’s, it’s tough to quantify or to describe, but yeah, to answer your question directly though, I’ve never heard from a patient that I’ve been involved with that, you know, I saw the light or anything like that.

[00:16:17] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: But one thing I do see very frequently, JJ, that patients know when they’re going to die, which is often a bit spooky because sometimes they’ll look fine. And they’ll go to you like, Dr. K, like, I’m going to die tonight. And you, and as a young doc, you’ll be like, Oh, no, you’re, you’re fine. Your vitals are good.

[00:16:38] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Like, you know, things are fine. And that night they’ll die or the next day they’ll die. It’s, you see some fascinating things in this line of work.

[00:16:50] JJ: When Grant was able to finally start talking again, he told us about The gray man. He told us about all the places he visited in the hospital when he was lying in the coma and described exact situations that he never would have known about like where we were sitting, what we were wearing.

[00:17:08] JJ: I’m like, okay. And then he described the gray man, you know, being on the other side, what it was like being given the choice by the gray man and, uh, deciding to come back because he kept hearing, because I would sit and talk to him in the ICU. So it was like, There’s definitely something, something more out there.

[00:17:30] JJ: That’s all. Uh, that’s all I know because he says no space, no time, and it’s just beautiful. So let’s go back over to the health stuff. So being strong, which, do you have any specific recommendations that you like to give patients? Do you get the opportunity to give patients these recommendations or are you just like getting them out of the dire straits?

[00:17:53] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: So, J. J., this is one of the gifts that, uh, has come to me recently. So, to answer you directly, no, my patients don’t, I don’t get to have that conversation with patients most, most often. Often they’re unconscious, often they’re delirious and they’re not aware of their surroundings. Occasionally I’ve had once a patient ask me about ketogenic diet.

[00:18:18] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: The patient was, uh, morbidly obese and I was so encouraged that they were willing to look at lifestyle modifications. So I threw them a bunch of resources ’cause that was of of interest. But the la the gift of the last few years, JJ, of being able to have platforms to, to advocate for some of this stuff has been an absolute.

[00:18:40] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Blessing. I, I can’t tell you, I mean, you know this because you live it, but how rewarding it is when someone comes to you and say, my mom now is no longer on diabetic medications. My mom now is like down 10 pounds and is physically stronger. So you could see her bias like that to me brings me so much joy because you’re changing a complete trajectory of someone’s life and In the ICU, it’s one to one, right?

[00:19:09] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Where what we’re doing right now is getting to thousands of people. And whether it’s half a dozen, whether it’s a hundred of them that this lands with, it’s so beautiful. It really is inspirational to me. So, to get to your question, so I, I, I basically like to, when people ask, I get a chance to, to talk about this stuff either on our show or when people, uh, track me down.

[00:19:41] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: I like to really try and meet them where they’re at. And I think one of the things that is the most important thing when it comes to getting strong is, is personalizing. You know, some people are afraid to go to the gym because they’re intimidated. So can you, what are the body weight exercises that you can do?

[00:19:59] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: And. I’m personally a believer of, you know, if you ask me what I think is the most effective 80, 20 of getting strong and staying physically active, I’m a big fan of compound lifts. Like, I think there’s just a huge bang for your buck. You squat, you deadlift, you press, you hinge. There’s such a, such beautiful exercises that, that in fact involve your whole body.

[00:20:25] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Right? And. Depending on what your goals are, like I’m a big fan of five, five by five. So, you know, just incrementally increasing that weight. So you’re, you’re, you’re aiming for five sets of five reps. Um, As I’ve aged, I’ve, I’ve actually, in terms of, of, of, of, of focusing on more, uh, high intensity interval training involving weights.

[00:20:50] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Like I’ve, I, you know, we will do a Tabata workout with kettlebell doing kettlebell swings. It’s about a workout for hand cleans, like things like that, but the average person that comes to me if they’re serious about trying to really get strong and increase their lean muscle mass, push weight, compound movements, and you, you, you’re always, in my opinion, going to get results.

[00:21:16] JJ: I love compound movements, and I know they say, and it is true that you can build the same amount of muscle doing a machine versus doing free weights, but it’s different in that your body, your nervous system has to coordinate things very differently when you’re kind of in the wild, which is, translates better to everyday life.

[00:21:38] JJ: And you named the ones that I really love, which are squats and deadlifts and deadlifts. and presses. And you also mentioned 5×5. So for everybody listening, that would be like, let’s say you’re picking 5 different exercises, um, and I actually do it 5x5x5. I do 5 exercises, 5 sets, 5 reps. So it’s the triple 5.

[00:21:59] JJ: But you could do it with 3 exercises. And basically when you’re working in that shorter rep range, you’re going heavy and fast and the heavy in that shorter range is really going to help develop strength because power development strength development muscle development actually you can do them all at once but if you’re really focusing strength is shorter sets Powers, just like you talked about doing high intensity interval training, doing some, you know, kettlebell swings and stuff like that.

[00:22:26] JJ: And by the way, I’m loving doing high intensity interval training with functional moves. Because I feel like I kill two birds with one stone, like you talked about. It’s awesome.

[00:22:37] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: And can I add one other thing to JJ, why I I’m a big fan of pump on this over machines because most people aside, the ones in this room right now, Their core is not where it needs to be.

[00:22:50] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: And so when you do the compound lifts, if you’re doing it well, you’re engaging your core. So you’re gonna prevent from that back pain from happening later on. Uh, and you know, this is something that I wish I would have learned more as a young adult to build that foundation because I was a machine guy forever.

[00:23:09] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: And I’d see those body, like the Olympic lifters do their thing and just kind of Just keep a close eye, but never really participate. But now, now I pretty much transitioned to my forties, and now that back pain that I used to have is much better because you learn how to brace, you learn the need to have a strong core to be able to fulfill those lifts.

[00:23:33] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: And so that’s, to me, one of the biggest advantages of doing those compound lifts. If you’re doing it right, your core is engaged the whole time. And, and that way, when you’re used to that, you’re protecting your body.

[00:23:46] JJ: I love that. It’s funny, I have the body divided into four parts. Upper body pushing, upper body pulling, you know, hip and thigh hinging, and power core.

[00:23:54] JJ: And I don’t worry about core, because core isn’t everything done correctly. And if you really think about it, if you used machines exclusively, you actually could get in more trouble.

[00:24:05] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Yeah.

[00:24:05] JJ: You know, um, because you’re protected. And in life, we’re not protected. So I always say, if you have bad knees, you have a bad back, that’s even more of a reason to do these things, not less.

[00:24:17] JJ: Whereas people tend to go, I can’t do that because And then you have that woman with pancreatic cancer running marathons. So yes, you can, is the answer, right? Absolutely. Well, what about the diet side of things? I’m getting, I’m tromping right down into religion now, because diet is No, it’s You

[00:24:33] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: know, you know, it’s It’s, it’s funny.

[00:24:38] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: You’re right, JJ. This is religion, but there’s some, once again, I, when people ask me, I try and give things in a personalized approach, but to me, the one that is non negotiable as far as I’m concerned is protein is king or queen, whatever you want to call it. Like protein is the most magical lever that we can be leaning into because everything gets better when you focus on protein.

[00:25:05] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Everything, like your lean muscle mass is going to increase, therefore you are stronger, therefore you are improving your lean muscle, or your basal metabolic rate, because your muscles love glucose and they’re burning up those calories just by being bigger. You are more stabilizing your blood sugar, so for those pre diabetics or diabetics.

[00:25:30] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Here’s the antidote, right? Like gaining that lean muscle mass because, uh, your increased protein intake, you are fuller, so you’re not going to want to crave those, those chips as much or those Ritz crackers or those high refined carb, uh, carbohydrates because you’re, you’re, you’re, you’re, you’re satisfied, you’re, you’re less feeling a need to, to, to fill a gap.

[00:25:56] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: And so when you add it all up, The, the improved, uh, insulin resistance, the increased lean muscle mass, being fuller. It’s just a, an amazing lever, whether you are vegan, whether you are low carb, whether you are, uh, uh, keto focused, like this to me is the non negotiable. This is the one that I think if you are serious about being healthier, this is where you got to lean into.

[00:26:25] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: And some of the other parts. Like, I really think it can be individualized, like, I’m a big fan of intermittent fasting, like, I don’t eat, or time restricted eating, depending on how, how much, how strict you want to be with your definitions, but I don’t eat until noon, and I allow myself about 3, 000 calories a day, uh, and it allows me to just focus is.

[00:26:49] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: I don’t have to think about the quantity of food. I just get to demolish my meals, assuming they’re high quality meals. I just get to eat like a beast, and I love it. I love it. And so, this is what, it’s a good lever for some, not for all. Low carb, I think it works for some, but once again, it’s, I think it’s individualized.

[00:27:12] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Keto, my main issue with keto is that it’s hard to sustain, and Amy kind of Nutrition approach to me has to be sustainable. And then the last one I’ll mention is staying away from the middle of the food aisle, avoiding the processed food. And I know that’s easier said than done, but I can’t see how many, I can’t tell you how many transformative, uh, transformations I’ve seen from people that have eliminated especially specific processed foods.

[00:27:45] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: I have had a guy. Uh, Colleague stopped taking pop altogether, lost 30 pounds in no time. It’s amazing

[00:27:53] JJ: to me that people are still drinking soda. Like this just, completely, maybe I’m completely naive, but I just, I mean obviously people are buying it, it’s in the store. So, you know, but it’s amazing. That’s like one of the easiest things that you can do to improve your health, just don’t have soda.

[00:28:11] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: A hundred percent. I mean, I think, I mean, Similar to other things, people are just addictive. It’s addictive, uh, like many of the processed foods that we grew up on now, it’s hard to believe to say that we grew up on processed foods. Uh, our ancestors I was raised on

[00:28:27] JJ: Pop Tarts and Captain Crunch.

[00:28:28] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Exactly, like I was, you know, Honey Nut Cheerios, Frosted Flakes, Fruit Loops, you know what I’m saying, Pudding, Jell O Pudding, like a Yep.

[00:28:42] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: We were So, uh, I don’t know if we’re going to get into this a bit, JJ, but I, I can’t tell you how exciting it is to see that people are, are really starting to question this stuff, like what we’re feeding ourselves, whether it’s how things are hormone modified or how, what these ultra processed foods are actually doing to our, uh, our body.

[00:29:10] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Our health mentally physically like there is seems to be almost like a revolution happening right now, and it totally excites me I’m sorry if I’m digressing but Like I think a change is coming

[00:29:22] JJ: you mentioned protein as this foundational piece and then the other things to me are tools and You might need to use keto temporarily for something or long term for cancer, but you know It’s like you look at these things and go I used Keto when my son had the brain injury, you know, it’s like you use some of these tools for what they’re needed for, doesn’t mean you’re gonna use them forever.

[00:29:44] JJ: Like I see Carnivore is a great food elimination diet. But not a forever diet. So there’s all these tools out there you can use. The one I don’t understand at all is this use of low protein for longevity. That one, like, completely flies in the face of everything. You know, like, let’s lose our muscle mass and live a long time.

[00:30:03] JJ: The two don’t go together. So that one I don’t like. I think you kind of were tipping your toe into something and I’ve, I’ve sort of looked at this whole thing and go, I really, I really am not interested in not being controversial anymore. And I don’t understand how health is political. Like this is the weirdest part, but I’m very excited about the fact that we have this Maha movement.

[00:30:24] JJ: I don’t know why people think this needs to be political. What it’s really saying is Hey, we need to look at what’s in our food supply. We need to look at what’s going on with our health care. And yes, we do. And our food supply, like, just looking at, and I’m assuming it’s the same in Canada as the U. S. I don’t know.

[00:30:39] JJ: But, like, they’re pointing out that there’s all these foods in the United States that are outlawed in Europe. And they actually started to show, like, back in, you know, the 50s and 60s, what the foods looked like. The fact they were in boxes, or they were in cans, or they were in glass jars, and now everything’s in plastic.

[00:30:59] JJ: And everything has been changed from, you know, from regular cane sugar to high fructose corn syrup. Like, just garbage all across the board. Is it the same in Canada?

[00:31:10] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Unfortunately, it is, JJ. And I’m, I don’t know if you were early to, to the game with this, but I’m, I’m considering myself late to the game to having this aha moment of there’s, there’s, there seems to be a lot of reason to be concerned.

[00:31:30] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: I’ll put it that way. I, like I did a show with, uh, uh, a nutritionist from the UK and they were talking about how exactly what you mentioned, there was some process items that were banned in Europe. that we’re giving to our kids in their cereal and so forth. It’s crazy. Like, have you ever, do you remember when you were a kid, when you would, you would have, um, you’d buy a loaf of bread, and I don’t know how long it would take before it got molded, but it wasn’t very long.

[00:32:00] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Right. We’ve had bread in there, in our house, it’s like three weeks, four weeks, and there’s not an, even a, a glimmer of mold. I’m like, this is fishy. Yeah. You know, like, there’s something not right here. And what was fascinating about this interview with this, uh, dietician, is she was saying anecdotally, I don’t have evidence to support this, so just keep it with a grain of salt.

[00:32:25] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: Less asthma, less autoimmune disease, less gluten intolerance, kids less medicated. I, there’s something off. I’m just gonna say this, I’ve been saying this for a while, not as much publicly. But there’s something off. Like, I went to a kid, uh, little kid’s party, sleepover, sleepover, and 75 percent of the kids were, were medicated for ADHD.

[00:32:53] Dr. Kwadwo Kyeremanteng: I’m like, there’s, there’s something not right. We can’t think to ourselves that, Oh, we’re better at diagnosing this. Oh, we’re, we’re just more aware. Oh, like, there’s, there’s something. I, I know it in my core, JJ, that there’s something that we’re doing to, at a societal level. That is not jiving
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